viernes, marzo 18, 2011

Something you will never hear again!

Enjoy this video; this is one of the most important advances in music in modern times. Thanks to Jhon Cage the music of modern times appears.

Please, hear the video (enjoy it, you will never hear this master musical piece again), then look for information on Jhon Cage: Who is him? Why is he important? Whatis the escence of his 4'33''
 Comment and discuss

86 comentarios:

  1. Norma Fernanda Coronado Romero21 de marzo de 2011 a las 19:53

    Now I understad why every time that you hear this muscial piece is different. He´s amazing because of the way that he makes people to do the music. What is music for him could not be music for us.His olny instrument is the silence and what people create. Every time that he plays that piece is going to be randomly because every time id diifferent. There are other pieces for piano where he put objects in the ropes of the piano so it´' going to make a different sound.
    So for me he's definitely an important artist that modify music and he's also a philosopher and writer.
    You have to find the silence inside of you to hear the music.

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  2. John Milton Cage Jr. (September 5, 1912 – August 12, 1992) was an American composer, philosopher, poet, music theorist, artist, printmaker, and amateur mycologist and mushroom collector. A pioneer of chance music, electronic music and non-standard use of musical instruments.
    Cage was one of the leading figures of the post-war avant-garde. Critics have lauded him as one of the most influential American composers of the 20th century.
    He is best know by this song, This video the 4′33″ the three movements of which are performed without a single note being played, in this it is supossed to hear the sounds of enviroment in wich the audience is.
    Yeah i think it can be an artistic genius but i really hate this 4′33″ its simply stupid, he only confused people to tell that silence and enviroment sounds are a composition, it really dumb because if any other guy have think that first it would be considered a stupid but jhon cage have already been a little famous so i am kind of disturbed.

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  3. Maria Fernanda Guerrero Fat23 de marzo de 2011 a las 14:18

    Well when I firts video I was like zn zn zn O.o .. I really do not i¿understand , but ,, then i see that .. music is not only notes of music instruments , like he put us the silence , it could also be the sounds of the nature .. and i agree with norma´s coment, I think that the music ... must be free for all , and dont hve to pay alot of money . in concerts , cd´s, operas etc... beacuse anyone can do it

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  4. well in my opinion I think this "song" that is not a song for me, it`s really boring for me. First when they present this men and when I read his biography i think he was a great compositor and it is, but this video is not really cool for me. In the first minute i get really bored I think that in some moment i could start the song, but when I see the clock an there was 5 minutes I really get confuse and bored. I could be a realle piece of music beacuse like i read before i see the video, "you will never hear this master musical piece again" and its true, but really i get bored and in some way like omar said its simply stupid.
    For other people it coul be fntastic but for me its really boring, and with no sence. But its okey i think this world is fantastic and god gives diferent ponit of view to persons so for many people is fantastic but really and been really respectfull i think is boring.

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  5. Mariana Martínez Dionicio23 de marzo de 2011 a las 16:09

    John cage, he surprised me, I had never heard anything like this. I really like it because he tries to makes us listen to the silence.
    Also, I like the way he made the composition of 4’33”, well I like the way he shows it to the audience I mean all the people in the auditorium were waiting for music, he actually made music but not in the classic way.
    So he change the point of view about making music, I think this piece of art is so amazing and so inspirational.
    The silence for some people doesn’t exist, but how do you know if there is silence or not? I think that is extremely difficult to hear it but it exists.
    And we need to remember that, there is not music without silence.

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  7. That was AWESOME!!!!!, I have never seen anything like that before!, I just have to say that that was simply stoning, mind blowing, incredible! How can an audience like that clap to something as bad as that!
    I meant, JESUS!, what the fuck!?, are those on the audience like "art intellectuals" because I don't get it. Sure, the concept if "original" and the silence counts as a sound but that was just too absurd. This guy may be an artist but this is just wrong, why do you hire a full orchestra to do nothing?, and I'm sure I'm not an artist, I'm not an expert, but Jesus Christ that was awful, it's kinda creative but it still bad for me

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  8. @Fer Guerrero
    I don't agree, music is an art, the art can only be performed by an artist, so, "anyone can do it" yeah, anyone can make a sound or silence, but just an artist can make it looks like art.

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  9. @Omar Najar
    I'm with you buddy, this "song" it simpy stupid, well, not stupid, but extremly borring. So, this guy may be the greatest artist of the modern times, of the laziest musician ever.

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  10. Ok...what I search about Jhon Cage was that he was like one of the best composers, a really good poet, philosopher, etc.
    And well he really creates good compositions but I dont like this one in certain way because is so boring, the whole piece was in silence, so if you will pay to hear a piece of Jhon Cage becasue you know he is really good musician and suddenly nothing happens and there's nothing to hear I will get disappointed, but well I respect the point of view of other people and I respect the 4´33 of Jhon Cage =)

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  11. i was expecting someting very traditional performance like 4´33´´ of instrumental music but the surprice is that the only instrument that is use is the silence of all the people.
    its also very original piece because all the people that were sit in the sits expect like me a musical sound, but they are doing the music. this piece is also beutiful because you can hear the sound of the enviromental and to make a refection and to hear what is happening with you body and in some cases to apresiate all that is arround you. people that is sit have respect because when he turn the next page, the people take that time to cough and sneez so when the "music start again" every body is in silence.

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  12. Norma Fernanda Coronado Romero23 de marzo de 2011 a las 20:26

    @Alejandra Barrera
    I was expecting something else too. I agree with you that is very original and I also think that is annivating. I agree too that you can apreciate all that is around you. I think that if you do this in an open place like a forest it would be beautiful to hear nature.

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  13. Norma Fernanda Coronado Romero23 de marzo de 2011 a las 20:30

    @Magdalena Vargas
    I don't agree with you because I think that you're paying to hear a piece and you do not expect that with all the sound that people are going to do it's goin to be music for him and for all that are sit around. I respect your opinion but I like it.

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  14. I think this is pure art he use silence to make something similar to what to me was a waterfall but i don´t know others i think its very brave and valiant to put his honor of artist and musician by doing this and maybe if someone else do this it will be like stupid but he have a reason and that is what make this art

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  15. Anna Luz Angulo González23 de marzo de 2011 a las 21:00

    Born in Los Angeles in 1912, Cage studied for a short time at Pamona College, and later at UCLA with classical composer Arthur Schoenberg. There he realized that the music he wanted to make was radically different from the music of his time. In 1952, David Tudor sat down in front of a piano for four minutes and thirty-three seconds and did nothing. The piece 4′33” written by John Cage, is possibly the most famous and important piece in twentieth century avant-garde. 4′33” was a distillation of years of working with found sound, noise, and alternative instruments. In one short piece, Cage broke from the history of classical composition and proposed that the primary act of musical performance was not making music, but listening.
    He reminded me the August Rush movie because of the part about surrounding sounds; but any way it is like the first type of music that we have had, I think it is like a challenge because many times we won't noticed about "nature sounds" and less in 4'33" without making a sound!!. Any way its creative, its with a purpose of making sth uncommon but with a reflexion idea, the only thing that really blew me away was the fucking stress with the musicians without doing nothing!!! are they insane?!! yes very important piece and famous but come on!!!

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  16. Anna Luz Angulo González23 de marzo de 2011 a las 21:13

    @ Omar Najar I'm agree with you he confused the audience first of all because if you don't know anything about the piece and you go you'll be like ??.. you can start!! .... and maybe your reaction at the end can be like a waste of money but when you try to undestand it you'll realized was with the purpose to show the world like a "natur or audience sound" or to trying to teach us that we " also can" be artists.......... but yeah was boring and not stupid but crazy

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  17. Anna Luz Angulo González23 de marzo de 2011 a las 21:22

    @Norma Fernanda Coronado Romero
    I respect your point of view but I dont' know if its like the custom that no matter the genre of the music but if you are going to hera music you expect music!! and with this yeah you take off wave and maybe after its can of interesting but more than 4 minutes bored you.

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  18. Well its true I will never hear something like that again. This "song" makes your hear all in your enviroment and makes you more aware of sounds you usually dont hear. For me for the first 20 second was fine but then I was really bored. The most interesting part of the song was when he wipe his sweat of his head and everybody laughs. For me this kind of song just don´t go with me and feel stupid and makes me sleepy.

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  19. @Omar
    I agree with Omar this song isnt right it just makes you loose time. This song is boring and also agree with you that if someone else had done it, it wouldnt be recognized. And like David said, what lazy musician.

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  20. Jonathan Gutierrez Hernandez23 de marzo de 2011 a las 22:44

    John Cage WOOWWW!! Ok i watched the video like 10 times trynig to figure out what was the message or the hidden music or something like that, but what i could apreciate in my point of view is that music is music and it can be created in everyones mine, represented in lots of different ways according maybe to the life of the person or also the feelings that the person has in that moment. But yes i think in 4´33 every one creates the music they have inside and trnsforme it to what they feelings are at that moment. I was kind of sad the day i listened to the song, so what came in my mind was lots of calm sounds and like a melancolic slowly melody. John Cage ROCKS!! But i prefer other tyoe of music!

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  21. Jonathan Gutierrez Hernandez23 de marzo de 2011 a las 22:50

    @Martha Vargas
    I think that you need to understand more about what the music is about. And since music is a really big movement it can be represented in many ways. And yes maybe is boring for you, but if you look it more and more deeper than just thinking it is boring it is boring, you will find that this piece of art is really beautiful.

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  22. Jonathan Gutierrez Hernandez23 de marzo de 2011 a las 22:57

    @ David Negrete
    Every one has its personal point of view, and since yo didnt like it, well i just want to say that this is not a rock or a metal type of music, this is orchestra, and yes it can be boring for you but i repeat it is not only this, it is the hole experience and the whole interpretation tha people apreciate in the silence and the feelings that you put into it, i think it is really cool, but yes, what would have happened if other composer had done it and he wasnt recognised as much as John Cage???

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  23. Claudia Rodríguez Medina24 de marzo de 2011 a las 12:47

    For me this is the presentation of silence to a society who continuously lives sorrounded by all kind of sounds and that probably has never appreciated the silence, so many think it is boring but have you ever stayed in a quiet place? It is interesting to hear so many sounds you have never heard before. Of course this is not the kind of thing you expect from a musical piece, you hope to find notes rythm and hear the orchestra playing but this is why it is new for us cause we always have something or someone noisy around us, we are always listening to the radio, or the ipod or the TV something must be on and making noise. I think it isn't necessary to bring a whole orchestra to do it but it is nice to hear silence.

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  24. Claudia Rodríguez Medina24 de marzo de 2011 a las 12:55

    @Magdalena Vargas I think that the point is that something unexpected happens, that's what music is about being unexpected, creating feelings because even if yu don't see it you are feeling boredom but maybe you didn't care about what was the point of it and you just said it is nothing and that's boring think there's a lot more behind what you can hear but what you can't hear. I personally think there's a message behind the silence and that's what the author tries to express or communicate to everyone, specially in this generation

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  25. Well when it first started I was really expecting to hear some music but then I found out Jhony Cages' point, he wants us to understand that we all can make some music, he wants us to realize that there are a lot of noises that in some point when you're in a completely silenced place you start matching them and that's the way music was first made before the Auto-tune and amplifiers. I think it's very interesting because even though 'we all can make music' in a certain way only the artist' silence can be really considered as music. It is awesome the way that he lets all the people make music with their own noises like when they sneeze or laugh or cough it's... it's pretty impressive.

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  26. Ana Paola Lobato Gómez24 de marzo de 2011 a las 15:14

    well, i think that Jhon Cage have a lot of original and rare ideas, because all his music is so different at the ones we know. but in this video i think it was so estupid, because he don´t do anything, well he said that it is in silence because the music is the nature or that the people will create the music, but i think that someone coughing that is not music. i don´t like it because it was horrible and boring, i almost get sleep. i accept he is very creative and original, but in my personal opinion this is not music and less art.

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  27. @Ana Paola Lobato i think is art because it makes you think and the feels you have in the time you hear it will define if you like it or not

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  28. @Norma Coronado I like and i think its art i agree with you

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  29. Ana Paola Lobato Gómez24 de marzo de 2011 a las 15:44

    @erik baz
    i am totally agree with you in the part thay you said that the video was bored.

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  30. Ana Paola Lobato Gómez24 de marzo de 2011 a las 15:50

    @moises rojas
    i am totally against you, because this is not art because he don´t do anything, and when you said that if someone else do it will be stupid, but he do it and i think it is estupid, that´s why i am against you

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  31. Beatriz Rafaela Jiménez Millán24 de marzo de 2011 a las 16:34

    Cellphones, televisions, talks,laughs, radio, computers, cars, and many other objects that surround us make our lives an environment full of sound. This master musical piece I believe is trying to make you see that silence can be beautiful too,that music shouldn't only be sound because, how common is silence compared to sound? And what he says is "everything we do is music" and well, I mean, it will then depend on the meaning we give to music, because for example, in the dictionary, the word music is defined as: "the art of making sounds that are beautiful, and putting them together into beautiful arrangements." So this "musical piece", if we stick to this meaning, would not enter in the definition of "musical" piece. But then again, if that silence is filled with your thoughts, or by coughs, etcetera and it is beautiful for you, then it may then enter in musical piece.
    I would then say it is really funny and amazing how John Cage actually converted silence into a masterpiece, with score and everything. Wether it is art or not it will always be subjective. I believe silence can be beautiful.

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  32. Beatriz Rafaela Jiménez Millán24 de marzo de 2011 a las 16:39

    @Ana Paola
    I can really see your point, because I mean, how could anyone ever imagine that someone letting time pass with silence be considered art?, but I believe that is the point too, that silence can actually be beautiful and I mean, he saw this and made it a music master piece, and that is what is kind of amazing.

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  33. Beatriz Rafaela Jiménez Millán24 de marzo de 2011 a las 16:43

    @Mayra Aldape
    I was expecting a total different thing too, but your point is true, it was with nature sounds that music started, with "silence" we can say; With every movement, every singing bird, or anything making a sound and so yes, he may have wanted not to forget that too.

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  34. @magada Vargas.
    i was disapointed at the begginig too bacayse i also was expecting a musical performance. but i dont i agree with you because as you say he was a good phylosopher and thets why he have another conception of music and he also was happy because all the people participate in his performance with the silence and also like a good phylosopher he try to make people to apresiate what they have.

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  35. @Jonathan Gutierrez.
    i agree with you because i think that just for the perpection and the creativity of making music is considered art, i think he is original i some people say its boring but i thik thet is you see it in live will feel, and catch the message easy. but i also prefered another tipy of music like you say.

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  36. Mariana Martínez Dionicio24 de marzo de 2011 a las 17:02

    John cage, he surprised me, I had never heard anything like this. I really like it because he tries to makes us listen to the silence.
    Also, I like the way he made the composition of 4’33”, well I like the way he shows it to the audience I mean all the people in the auditorium were waiting for music, he actually made music but not in the classic way.
    So he change the point of view about making music, I think this piece of art is so amazing and so inspirational.
    The silence for some people doesn’t exist, but how do you know if there is silence or not? I think that is extremely difficult to hear it but it exists.
    And we need to remember that, there is not music without silence.

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  37. francisco de la llata24 de marzo de 2011 a las 17:06

    @beatriz rafaela
    i agree and disagree beacuse i think silice is realy beautiful but in some times like when you are sliping or something like that but when you pay for hearing art i dont think so beacuse if you want to hear silence shut up and hear the silince you dont need to pay for hearing it.

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  38. francisco de la llata24 de marzo de 2011 a las 17:10

    @omar najar
    i agree with you and erik that thise is just waisting time beacuse is not art is just doing nothing and stay in silence for 4 min and 33 sec. that is not art and if that is art i also can make art in my bed in my car in my house every were where im in silence i make art thats amazing

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  39. francisco de la llata24 de marzo de 2011 a las 17:15

    well i think like you saw in my comments that this is just waisting time an its nor really art because its supose that you enjoy the art waching it HEARING it not just staing in silence that is waisting your time you can stay in silence every were you go and also is a waist of money going to a consert that you wil not hear anithing because the concert is in silence its sorry but stupid i i wanted to waist my money it will be fore something that obeusley hear not somenthing i can do in every part stay in silence i am totaly against this type of art because y can also be artist just stay in silence and buala you are an artist.

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  40. Mariana Martínez Dionicio24 de marzo de 2011 a las 17:22

    @Beatriz Jimenez
    I totally agree with you because, some people think that the silence is not music. Also, I think that the silence means something different for everyone.
    And I get your point because for some people to be in silence and hear the sounds that nobody hear nowadays such as the sound of the birds etc. And if we have silence we can perceive these beautiful sounds.
    And I think that is really weird the way he made the master piece because, nobody imagines that his piece of music would be the silence.

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  41. Mariana Martínez Dionicio24 de marzo de 2011 a las 17:23

    @claudia Rodriguez.
    I totally agree with you because nowadays some people think that the silence doesn’t exist, and why the people think like this?, the people think like this because the society is always noisy like you said.
    And I think that if we take 5 minutes to stay quiet and silence we can hear sounds that are extremely beautiful, like you said but in this society is the people don’t have time to be relax, so that’s why, sometimes we don’t value the silence as music.

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  42. So... Jhon Cage... very important compositor why? well because he was one of the few people who really wondered about the great experience that would be hering nothing but silence, which we aren't used to, because at every moment you commonly can't be really in harmony and peace, cause you'll always hear, a car passing by, a little boy screming, a baby crying or even worst your cell phone ringing and breaking that moment of "silence".
    So i think to that because of this thing about not having the posibility of being a moment in total silence we also find ocasions like the one the people who go to listen the master piece 4'33 can't tolerate so much silence! cause i've got to admit that even by seeing it on a video i got really stressed and didn't really enjoy it, because even the 4'33 minutes were forever to me!
    But i really liked that Jhon Cage really seemed forward to what we see like real master pieces of orchestra, by taking something we could have seen as art but didn't into a really amazing experience!

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  43. Samantha Anguiano C @Beatriz Rafaela Milan24 de marzo de 2011 a las 17:35

    I totally agree with betty i mean for some people silence is such a excellent master piece but fo others it isn't but such as betty said our full environment is now filled with noise in any way so i think also that we can't or don't really apreciate or can apreciate silence because we are so used to be full of noice!
    But we really have to learn to enjoy the good things of life that by not being common we don't like.

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  44. Samantha Anguiano C @Alejandra Barrera24 de marzo de 2011 a las 17:46

    Ale mentioned a really curious thing, about the silence really letting you have a deeper persperctive about yourself and the environment around you, cause it is very common to be in "silence" for a moment but then as a noise comes out it distracts you about what you were feeling, or seeing, etc. so in this case as you are in complete silence well you've got nothing left but to really be in harmony and think things better and really get a closer thought about things, i think you even clear your mind, so i guess it's a really cool experience, to even hear your own heartbeat! <3

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  45. Claudia Rodríguez Medina24 de marzo de 2011 a las 18:07

    @Mayra Aldape I agree with you when you say that the silence is music, because in a musical piece there is silence that has to be marked and it is as important as the sound. Silence is also said to be a note that is non-performed, a pause that is really necessary in a melody. It also marks the beginning and the end of a piece of music but in this case the author took this concept of silence to the extreme and made it the whole musical piece. I also agree that we expected something different because when we think of music we think (as it normally is) of sound, and I think noone of us had ever listened to something similar to this in our life, and we never thought we would so who could ever imagine this would be called music by having no notes in it.

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  46. Matias Martinez van Bebber.24 de marzo de 2011 a las 18:11

    I really dint liked this it was very boring, I wested 9 minutes of my life, it was all the time in silence and i dont see the point, it is original but for me this isnt art. Jhon Cage is important because he did something new and original but it doesnt mean it is great, Dis depends of the context and the meaning that he wants to give, for some it is great but for me it really sucks.

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  47. Matias Martinez van Bebber.24 de marzo de 2011 a las 18:14

    @Alejandra Barrera.
    Yes maybe silince is interesting, but in tht rum there were noices so it dosnt applie.

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  48. Matias Martinez van Bebber.24 de marzo de 2011 a las 18:15

    @Beatriz Rafaela Jiménez Millán @Ana Paola.
    Yes i dont undestant why is this considert art it is very boring.

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  49. Jesus Alejandro Hevia24 de marzo de 2011 a las 18:25

    John Shits is one of the most important figures of the contemporary art, he don't only for their innovations in the field of the music but like thinker, writer and philosopher. Born in the United States from North America September 5 of 1912, son of an Inventor, makes their studies of preparatory in Los Angeles, and he assist two years to the University of Pomona in Claremont later. he in 1930 make a trip through Europe in which he are devoted to study Art, Musica and Architecture, and he to their return to the United States are devoted to write poetry, to paint, and to study composition with Richard Buhling.
    I think this video is really art because it has a lot of opinion but most important this video I think is trying to show the sound of the silence how in 4 minutes 33 seconds a lot of sound are made.

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  50. Jesus Alejandro Hevia24 de marzo de 2011 a las 18:30

    @ana paola.@beatriz rafala Jimenez Millan

    I dont agree with your opinion because I think that the video is really art because this video is not trying to show only one sound that you can identified easy this video try to make you expand your opinion ad try to found the soun of the silence.

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  51. diego hazel santiago mardesiche24 de marzo de 2011 a las 19:07

    i my very personal opinion i think thes "pice of art" is a waste of time and i didnt underestand the concept, although i investigated the author and,and i saw that he plays whit the silence i dont think these video or son was art jus solence who can you apresiate the silence or even ctritisazided, and i also read thet he leads poeple to do their own music or their own art i think these is absurd because you go to a conces to lisen some ones else art not to create your own art, if you want to creat your own art yo just sing in the shower.

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  52. diego hazel santiago mardesiche24 de marzo de 2011 a las 19:09

    @diego sanroman: i agree whit you i dont nkow how people can consider thes silnce a pice of art i thing is somethin absurd to do or to lisen at silence, these tipe of art was borring and confusing for me to as you said diego

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  53. Damn!! This was pretty terrible, i don't think this is art, is not even music, is just maddening silence, i don't understand how can someone consider this art and music, and even pay to "hear" it. I'm sorry teacher James but this is the worst publication you have upload so far, I couldn't hold even a minute without feeling stress with that dead silence...

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  54. diego hazel santiago mardesiche24 de marzo de 2011 a las 19:13

    @Jesus Alejandro Hevia: i totaly desagree whit you how can silence be an art in these case we are all artist, because every one can make silence no, or just wen you try to consentrate your self and everything is in silence your ar and artist????, you go to a concert to lisen some ones feleengs and perseption of things and world ok

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  55. I really think I just waited 9 minutes of my life watching this because I mean like REALLY?? are you kidding me??? there is no way you are able to call this "art" when youvwe got real musical art from clasical music, choirs etc... you just cant be serious to call this art. and there is quite a difference from silences to doing absolutly nothing its just plain stupid, after hearing true music art like for example carmina burana and stuff you just cant compare that with THIS its just I dont get it how people could waste money on this!!

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  56. @Francisco de la LLata

    I agree with you Frank, the art must be enjoyed, this is just anoying. Everyone can composed something like John Cage did, just Crap.

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  57. @Omar Najar I agree with omar by saying that the only reason some people dare to consider this art is because john cage was already a recaognized man when he did this if anyone else had even tried to do something similar they would have sent him to a mental institution

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  58. @Larch#69 (Carlos Meneses)

    Chipes i totally agree with you, I think I lost 9 minutes of my life too, this is not Art in any sense...

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  59. @David Negrete

    I don't really agree with you because it's like not understanding where the music comes from, I mean it's amazing how a bunch of sounds that we make or that nature makes can be considered as music when the silence is the melody. The creativity of Jhon Cage is impressing and by the way I DO respect your opinion because we all have different ones (:

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  60. @Diego Hazel
    I agree with you this cat be art because you go to a concert to hear someone express something, not necesarilly feelings but also ideas or something else but this, this aint do nothing pure BS

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  61. @Beatriz Jimenez

    I totally agree with you because for me the silence can be beautiful too, because we are so used to the sound that everything makes that we don't take the time to listen to the silence, I think that even though when we think we're totally in silence there are always going to be sounds that if you rearrange them together are going to make some kind of melody.

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  62. Anna Luz Angulo González24 de marzo de 2011 a las 20:01

    @ erik baz I'm agree with you first of all it's a waste of time, its pretty boring andyeah for the first minute its like mmm... and make you like interest but after that you want to turn off the computer!! and I feel bad not by me by the musicians

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  63. personaly I thiNk that this is Not music, and what i oNly could feel is coNfusioN But is ok this for me, Because every oNe is free to express themselfs iN the way they like.Ad the worst of all is that the people pay to hear that. me iNtheir place I would like my moNey Back. for me the music Needs to have souNds But i couln´t hear aNythiNG. so what I caN coNclude, is that this is Not music.

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  64. I agree with luis aNgel Because you CaN´t pay for a coNcert aNd doN´t hear aNithiNg.it is kiNd of stupid to make that. aNd it is more stupid to iNveNt that aNd actually thiNk aNd make other people tHiNk that is music, aNd more than that, thiNk that is excelleNt.

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  65. I also agree with erik Because it is Not oNly BoriNg to see that. it is also sad aNd Now oN iM goiNgo to appresiate all the souNds aN I will consider them as Beautiful souNds mayBe this is the purpose of the video to learN to apresiate the souNds

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  66. Well at first i saw this and i was really mad, because it's the work of some old man trying to re-arrange music but with no style whatsoever. i get it, the music is the sound the place makes, the audience and the orchestra unintentionally, but it's a beautiful thing when it's short, like when the audience is waiting for the band to start, but when it's long is like "a minute of silence for those who are dead".
    I thought: "Anyone can do this." but if you think anyone can do this you don't see one thing: not anyone can make such a waste of time and get recognized by it.
    so i looked for his other kind of work and you are right, he is the father of modern music, he brought many new ways of making music, distortion guitars, imposible rythms and i really liked his song dream, but just for filling the silence, not for having it on my ipod.
    But 4:33 it's just stupid and what all artists are trying to do, make something different no matter how stupid it is.

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  67. Larch#69 It's not for everyone and certainly not for me, because i like when there's silence, you can appreciate the sound from outside, but it's in a theatre where they're playing this! you can only hear chairs moving and people coffing. that's a wannabe-intelectual art.

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  68. "John Milton Cage Jr. (September 5, 1912 – August 12, 1992) was an American composer, philosopher, poet, music theorist, artist, printmaker, and amateur mycologist and mushroom collector. A pioneer of chance music, electronic music and non-standard use of musical instruments"
    I think that this video was obviously extreme boring but even though he only wanted to do a non common "song", it is good to innovate the ideas but to do this but I still think I lost my time, even the people was sleeping. this isn't music for obvious reasons, but for some people it might be art and even music but for others it isn't.

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  69. @francisco de la llata the people that pays for this just wants to feel intelligent and over-thinks the music, giving it a meaning like: "it expresses the feelings of the world" or some, and pardon me for my french, bullshit related to that.
    it's just for pretencious people, and i'm sorry if someone gets insulted but it's true.

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  70. @omar
    I agree with him because even he is an artistic genius, I think that with this piece he only makes understand people that he hasn't anymore good ideas to compose a good song with INSTRUMENTS.
    and only because he is famous can make this kind of stuff but if it was a another guy people would say that it is stupid.

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  71. @Diego Hazel Santiago. the whole point of art and the amazing thing is that we can consider every single thing that surrounds us as art. Yes, we are all potential artists actuallyy, we can make art at every moment. Silence is reelaxing, calming, 4:33 is a way to express peace and get that relaxing feeling to everyone and that everyone feels peace at their own way. I disagree with you.

    VALERIA VAZQUEZ

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  72. @erik
    I thought the same, we will never hear that again as a song but it makes your hear all in your enviroment and makes you more aware of sounds we usually dont hear, we will hear silence many times but as this way it is just a waste of time.

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  73. Magdalena Vargas S. @ Matias Martinez24 de marzo de 2011 a las 21:00

    Ok I agree with you I couldnt see the point of that and as you said he made something new and original but all depends in the context and what he wants to mean.

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  74. It s reaLLY incredible how John Cage in my opinion create one of the most beauty songs or symphony i heard in all my life because it show a sound that in your life are very scarce de moments where you can hear the silence. This silence is always here but only a really genious can made the silence a piece of art in music history i think that no one else in history will be close to this really symphony .
    The most i loke is that this song make you imagine. make you dream, make you hear you self.

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  75. I was expecting something so much more different. At first I was so mad to see that nothing was going on. I really thought it was a big waste of my time because i had a lot of homework to do, and I had to sit here and listen to nothing... It was barely 3 minutes, not even half of the video's duration and i was already bored and about to fall asleep. But after a while I observed how this man capted everyones attention by doing anything. And that was when i realized silence is beautiful also. Sometimes you just drive crazy because of all the noise of everyday, and sometimes silence is the only thing that you need to be in peace with yourself.

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  76. Samuel Ramirez@Gerardo Alvarez24 de marzo de 2011 a las 21:08

    im not agree with Gerardo because he don t realize how he make the people hear the song of the silence, it s not bored because you can make a reflexion of how many in your life you stop to hear the silence.

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  77. @Samuel Ramirez I agree with sammy because it is true that we almost never hear this noise, the noise of the not noise. We are constanting sorrounded by big noises, and even when we think it is quite, there is still noise aroun us.

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  78. Magdalena Vargas S. @ Mariana Martinez24 de marzo de 2011 a las 21:13

    OK...in certain way I agree with you about that there is no music without silence, but I dont think that this can be inspirational (it was a lot of time just without noise), I just see that this show to you th original idea but as I said it was boring!!

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  79. I think this music is really pointless. how can people pay for this? i think this is an insult to real classic music. i just cant unserstand how can someone consider this as art. i think it's stupid and useless.

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  80. @Norma Coronado I agree wit you Norma because it is true that this looks kind of dumb, but as you said this is art as well, because we don't ever appreaciate the beauty of silence and how we feel about it. It is something that we don't always have the chance to enjoy...

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  81. Samuel Ramirez@luis angel24 de marzo de 2011 a las 21:14

    i really don t understand the point of view of luis angel because he said that is a shit pay to hear nothing but i think that you pay to hear a beutiful melody by john Cage that are only few cases in your life thAT you will here that symphony

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  82. I think this type of music is brilliant because it is base in the sounds of the people and not like any tipe of music, with instruments. i would really like to go to one of these concerts. i liked it a lot

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  83. Marco Hernandez Martinez.24 de marzo de 2011 a las 21:49

    wen i saw these video i think that these was kind of pattetic and full because how can silence be considered art,, but then i underestanded and investigate abount thes author and i saw that maibe he was right, in silence the people can make or construct their own art and express wat they want. so in conclusion know i am a little confused because in that case every one has a artist insede of him so i am a little confused but at the end i kind of like it

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  84. @Samuel Ramirez

    I agree with you samy because not everybody can make the silence so deep in so many people and make it look great, not realy a song but something peaceful

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  85. @Andres Camacho

    As Camacho I would like a lot going to one of this concerts, just to experience that deep silence, to experimetn my self what does it feels.

    Marco Hernandez Martinez
    [The coment to samuel above is mine too, I forgot to write my name]

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  86. @Luisangel
    I agree with you and frank that art should be able to be enjoyed and I think most of the people wouldnt

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