viernes, abril 01, 2011

The people....

don't want art, they just want shit.

This idea by Piero Manzoni make him produce a very special piece of art...well 90 of them. They cost their weight in gold, but now a days they are nearly the 200,000 euros. Yes..this post will be shit.




The Artist's Shit

The ninety cans of "Merda d'artista" ("Artist's Shit, content 30 gr., freshly preserved, produced and tinned in May 1961"), were first exhibited in the Galleria Pescetto (Albisola Marina) on 12 August 1961. 

Manzoni calculated the value of the ninety cans - all numbered, each with a net weight of thirty grams - in accordance with the daily exchange rates for gold.
Manzoni's cans of Artist's Shit have some forerunners in the twentieth-century art, like Marcel Duchamp's urinal ("Fontaine", 1917) or the Surrealists' coprolalic wits. Salvador Dalì, Georges Bataille and first of all Alfred Jarry's "Ubu Roi" (1896) had given artistic and literal dignity to the word "merde". The link between anality and art, as the equation of excrements with gold, is a leitmotiv of the psychoanalytic movement (and Carl G. Jung could have been a point of reference for Manzoni).
Manzoni's main innovation to this topic is a reflection on the role of the artist's body in contemporary art.

71 comentarios:

  1. Merda d´ artista.... well for some people this may be one of the greatest art piece ever. And maybe they are right because probably it has a very deep meaning to the artist... but for me, and my point of view i think it is disgusting, I see nothing artistic in this, and i would never buy a piece of art like this EVER. Call me closed minnded but i just don´t like it, I think is funny though!

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  2. This is just awesome!, And I'm not been sarcastic like with the 4:33. The idea that the people want shit, is truth!, I mean he literally do it!, and the people concider that art! Yeah, maybe it isn't the cleanest thing in the world, and maybe is kinda gross, but come on!, that idea is just real.

    You have to admit that this is funny, intelligent, gross and in some kind of wierd way, art. I mean, I think is better that the 4:33, but that´s just me. Great piece of shitty blog teacher!

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  3. Well so here we could clearly see that well, art is really revolutionating because well art conception for me in a moment was only cool or weird paintings, real music masterpieces, but I would ever ever think of Shit as art, but well the world is always evolving.
    So what I think about it is that, I was speecheless when I saw this post, because well the artist really knew how to make this can full of shit a significant piece of art, because simply by saying that people Don't want art, they just want shit well is really true in a certain way... Anyways personally I wouldn't but a can of this marvelous can full of shit, why...? Well because this isn't that artistic for me I mean yes as I said in a certain point it's artistic but for my preferences it's not worth so much money if you can get into the Pipes and there you'll be full of art!
    But well my conclusion is... Each person has its preferences at art, but my preferences don't include a can with shit...

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  4. Ana Paola Lobato Gómez5 de abril de 2011 a las 18:35

    Well, for me, this is not in fact it is so disgusting. Maybe many people like it very much and the ones that like this "type of art" will do everything they can and can´t do to buy it. I would never buy this "art" because it is a shit of someone else (disgussting) and it is too expensive (i don´t have that amount of money). Many people can find it funny, or other people couldn´t belive this type of art exist, some people like it and some don´t. But well i respect everyones ideas and opinion, but I rhink this art is unpleasant

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  5. Jonathan Gutierrez Hernandez5 de abril de 2011 a las 21:18

    When I read this article, there were two thins that came up in my mind. The first one was that this was really nasty because IT REALLY IS!!! I mean this hole thing was a really crazy idea andi really cant believe that he created this hole thing. On the other side the second thing that came to my mind was that people BOUGHT THIS POOP INVENTION and how they considerated this thing was art, but then I realized that there are a lot of crazy people that think it is art so Irespect their poinion althogh i rather spend my money in other things!!!

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  6. Jonathan Gutierrez Hernandez5 de abril de 2011 a las 21:27

    @Xochitl Salazar
    i agree with her because yes for some people like i said is art but it is really funny how thiy think that and yes meybe we are close minded but its our point of view and like it or not, you gotta accept it. althogh i think if he had maybe paint his poop it would look more atractive and more original!!!!

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  7. Ana Paola Lobato Gómez6 de abril de 2011 a las 18:08

    @xochitl salazar
    I am totally agree with you because this is very disgusting, and I also think that this is not art, and I also would never buy it.

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  8. Ana Paola Lobato Gómez6 de abril de 2011 a las 18:14

    @david
    I am against you, because this is not a great idea for me. I don´t think that a shit isfunny and that this idea is intelligent. In the only part I am agree with you is were you said that it is gross

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  9. i think this is very nasty, because in my opinion to have "merda d´artista" is your house is not to have a piece of art like a paint. And i like the thigs that are simple and original but i think that the simple thigs that are famous just because a famous artist created is not atractive. i also head one time that art can´t be reproduce because the artist can make it only ones and i understand that this artist can do is aot and alot of times but for me is losing the originality. i also think is discusting because as we say one day in class this is getting like fertilazing and imagine to try to open to show it to some one alse, imagine what is going to happen.
    i will like more to buy other thigs that "merda d´artista"

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  10. @ana pao
    i agree with you because is nasty and also i am not that tipe of person that do alot of thigs to buy it. i also agree with you that is very expansive and if some one give the chance to choose to buy that type of art or somethig alse i will choose something alse.

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  11. Maria Fernanda Guerrero Fat @ xo @ ana pao6 de abril de 2011 a las 20:28

    Well humm :/ I think this is creavity , I agree with the coment's of ana pao and Xochtl .. the trhue is that is very disgusting and is like stupid that value ALOT onlye because is of himm and its famouse ¬¬. I think that we are more inteligent to imagine and create better art and more beatifull .

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  12. @xochitl
    i agree with you because i also think is not art but to other it is, i will never buy it ether because is so expensive and also for me i will never like to have a piece of art like that in my house

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  13. Remember this art is not for everybody...as David pointed is a way that the artist make fun of the art consummers...is not what the art is but what it means.

    Don't look for beauty (there is not such thing) look for THE idea.

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  14. I think this could be art, for me it´s just shit in a can so I wouldnt take it as art: I think that to understand it and even appreciate it, you must have a really open mind and an even bigger concept of art. But even if it hard to understand, it´s still really funny

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  15. Mariana Martinez Dionicio7 de abril de 2011 a las 14:36

    This is in some way disgusting because, well is shit. But in the other way is artistic because nobody tried this before. This change art, because anyone could imagine that shit could be art, I mean he was the first that think about shit+art = can of shit, its art. In some way he didn’t think a lot but he think about something clever and unusual.
    Personally I think that this man is a genius because is not common to think that shit could be art, but he did it, he think about it.
    And is revolutionary this idea because nowadays everything could be art even shit.

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  17. diego hazel santiago mardesiche7 de abril de 2011 a las 14:42

    well well i didnt uderstand very good the reason of the artist of having shit and gold mixed as art, but in my personal opinion i cant underestand hoe can people see shit as art i think at these levels of "art" like the sound and know the shit are just a redeculuse way of waisting money and time, asnd for reach people to say the know how to apreciate art

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  18. diego hazel santiago7 de abril de 2011 a las 14:45

    @tomas gallegos:well tomas i agree and disagree whit you because thes defenetly is not art in any aspect but i agree whit you in the aspect that for you is not art and i also think you dont need an open mind you need to know knothing about art.

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  19. okey...i really don`t like this ART, i think is not a piece of art, why shit in a gold box y could be consider art, so in that way I cant put my shit in a gold box, and I put bye name shit of Luis Miguel, and in one day I will be rich, i think this is stupid, okey i undestand the artist point, but for me is really stupid to sell shit in that amount of money.
    First i was thinking thta was a joke, but then when i read carefully, I was like wtf?....so im not agree with many of my classmates, because this for me is not art, only because is a gold box it`s so expensive, but only, think, imagine that the piece of shit is in a wood box or worst in a plastic bag, will you buy it? nooo...thats why i think this is not a piece of art!

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  20. diego hazel santiago7 de abril de 2011 a las 14:49

    @david:dear classmaite i dont agree whit you i think these is a offensive art for people that really like art or that want to learn about art and to apreciated.

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  21. Well...I think is a funny way that the artist use to make "art" is really creative but I think that those people that buy the can with shit is really silly I would use that money to buy something more necessary and useful not wasting money in nasty things.
    But well an amazing thing is how people buy shit and qualify as art so I respect all this but I would not buy Merda d´artista.

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  22. Mariana Martinez Dionicio7 de abril de 2011 a las 14:56

    @Samantha
    I agree with you, I wouldn’t buy a can either, I just think is awesome the idea and is clever the way the artist expresses his inconformity with the society of nowadays.
    And I think that nowadays anything can surprise us in the art, everything could be art, you just need an original and good idea and you can make a revolution in art.

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  23. This is in some way disgusting because, well is shit. But in the other way is artistic because nobody tried this before. This change art, because anyone could imagine that shit could be art, I mean he was the first that think about shit+art = can of shit, its art. In some way he didn’t think a lot but he think about something clever and unusual.
    Personally I think that this man is a genius because is not common to think that shit could be art, but he did it, he think about it.
    And is revolutionary this idea because nowadays everything could be art even shit.

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  24. @ana pao
    I agree with you! Haha is disgusting and is too expensive! If you can throw up with your own shit, just image you buying shit from another person! That would be disgusting and gross.
    But you are right could be art, and we need to respect the point of view of the artist.

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  27. Mariana Martínez Dionicio7 de abril de 2011 a las 15:18

    This is in some way disgusting because, well is shit. But in the other way is artistic because nobody tried before. This change art, because anyone could imagine that shit could be art, think a lot but he think about somehing clever and unusual. Personally think that this man is a genius because is not common to think that shit could be art, but he did it, he think about it. And is revolutionary this idea because nowadays everything could be art, even shit.

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  28. Anna Luz Angulo González7 de abril de 2011 a las 15:41

    For me it's very mucky,may be to much art for someone but I don't mind if to make that idea was needed alot of creativity that really make the term Art like nothing special, like if everything that anyone does it's art. So I don't consider it something artistic and therefore I don't like it although it is something funny and if someone consider it artistic please explain it to me.

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  29. Magdalena Vargas S. @ Mariana Martinez7 de abril de 2011 a las 15:41

    oK in the part in wich you said that is disgusting I agree with you but I dont agree of what you said that is artistic because nobody tried before...I think is innovating but dont artistic.

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  30. Anna Luz Angulo González7 de abril de 2011 a las 15:45

    @David Negrete I'm agree with you about that it is funny and original but I disagree about that it's better this than the 4:33

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  31. Anna Luz Angulo González7 de abril de 2011 a las 16:01

    @Magdalena Vargas S.
    I'm with you it's funny but I'll buy sth more useful, great I don't know sth I really need/want/like.

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  32. El de ANONIMO ES MIO OMAR NAJAR LARA PERDOON OLVIDE PONER EL NOMBRE

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  33. I agree with Omar that is stupid to call art to shit

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  34. Samantha Anguiano C. @Anna Luz Angulo7 de abril de 2011 a las 17:33

    So well answer for Anna!... This is "art" by the simple fact that the artist really gave a true message I mean... He took simple human pop placed it in a can and well proposed it to the world... But that's not all he did to that simple can full of shit, he gave it a meaning a reason to be... And really ironic and truth.

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  35. Samantha Anguiano C @Magdalena Vargas7 de abril de 2011 a las 17:37

    So in add to Magda's post I would like to say that I consider that those people who spend money on buying merda d' artista are the real people who think art is complete... Shit... well I think so... Because for what other reason would you like to buy merda d' artist?....

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  36. @Magdalena Vargas Sanchez

    I agree with you in that the people who buy or bought that crap is very stupid because of waisting the money in some Shit than in other things more necessary...

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  37. No way this piece of shit is art...come on who really would buy a piece of pure shit for so many money, and even worse, for what use? What would you use that thing for? It doesnt even looks attractive and i dont want to imagine its 50 year old concentrated smell. I really found disgusting this type of art, I cant imagine anyone buying this shit. Are snots next? what is in this artists minds? What happened to creative painetrs and sculptures?

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  38. @David Negrete: Really do you consider this shit art? Let me ask you, would you buy it? would you buy anyone´s can of shit? Where would you put it or what would you do with it?

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  39. Matias Martinez van Bebber.7 de abril de 2011 a las 18:27

    I think that the consept of this is to make fun fron the ones that buy art,it is ridiculous, because just because a famous artist made it it is art because the consumers consider it art so for me this is SHIT and i dont like it. If this has a mining that makes fun of tha art buyers they should consider it art because he makes fun of them.

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  40. Matias Martinez van Bebber.7 de abril de 2011 a las 18:29

    @Luis Angel Reyes.
    I agree because SHIT in a can cant be art, it i also think it is very stupid.

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  41. AMAZING!! this was like a sick joke from the author like literally telling consumers you only want shit!!! and they actually bought it ajjaajajaj I think the artist message in this work was that he believed people didnt really apreciate art and just wanted to buy anything to show off and man did he make his point jajajjaa incredible

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  42. Magdalena Vargas S. @ Alejandra Barrera7 de abril de 2011 a las 18:34

    I agree with you that is nastyand about the aspect that you cant show it to other people and it will be weird to have in your lounge a can with merda d' artista.

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  43. Matias Martinez van Bebber.7 de abril de 2011 a las 18:35

    @Samantha Anguiano C. @Anna Luz Angulo
    I agree because may be art because it is original and there is no other one can with shit.

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  44. Claudia Rodríguez Medina7 de abril de 2011 a las 18:41

    I think this is really disgusting and I wouldn't buy a can of poop just because comes from an artist. I would never imagine this poop would be called art and I don't think you would like to have that in your house decorating like any painting or sculpture or say like:"Hey did you see this new piece of art I bought it is shit from an artist". I also don't know why something you do every day is so expensive by the fact that someone recognized did it, it's like when they buy in e-bay the used tissues of some singer or whatever but that it's not called art it is gross. I can get the idea or the reason why he did and he has a point, he is right with what he wanted to express but he expressed it in the most disgusting way he could. This definitely shows that the ones who bought it are the kind of consummers that buy everything they see even if it isn't beautiful or useful in any way.

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  45. @matias
    I agree, the concept is to show the stupidity of art buyers

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  46. Claudia Rodríguez Medina7 de abril de 2011 a las 18:49

    @Marco Hernández I agree with you I wouldn't buy a can with shit inside it cause it doesn't have any use and I would go around saying "Look at this can of poop I bought for 200,000 euros", people would think I went crazy for buying something like that and as expensive. And I wouldn't use it for anything not even for decoration because it would look gross and just that I think people would throw up if they saw this because I would. If I had it I don't know what I would use it for.

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  47. Claudia Rodríguez Medina7 de abril de 2011 a las 19:13

    @Larch#69 I agree with you because I think they were really dumb that they bought something like this and much more because it was like an insult for them tellinmg them "you are really stupid buyers" and they showed they were by buying this kind of "art" and I think he really expressed what he wanted to express with this and he achieved his goal with these can of shit. I do think it is stupid to buy things like this it would only show the waste of money you make in things with no use.

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  48. Ok, so... We all know that art can come in different presentations and it depends of what the artist want to share with the people. for me this work goes beyond what most of the people could take as art, it could be confusing if you want to analyze this piece of shit as a piece of art because it could be taken as art if you think about the artist's intention which i don't really agree with but anyways it transmits or it can make you feel different kind of emotions when you see this piece of shit but I think there are better ways of trying to get people's attention and create art. I really think this is pointless and useless although some people CAN get to buy this...

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  49. Well, i think this is a little gross but it's also kind of funny because this is a very ingenious way to have fun of the artist to make fun of the espectator...it's just ironic, and i really think this can be art, not estetic, but art, because the artist take something that we see as disgusting and give it a meaning, another way to see shit jaja, yes it's funny
    CLARISA DE HOYOS JIMENEZ

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  50. Jonathan Gutierrez Hernandez7 de abril de 2011 a las 20:11

    @ Ana Pao
    I agree in all that my classmate wrote, because she has the same ideas that i do, she doesn´t like this idea or this kind of art and also she thinks this si not necesary or semoething importatn to have; for us is only the invention of a person than won a lot of money doing poop. And yes, i would never ever!!! buy this pooop-ar!!

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  51. Beatriz Rafaela Jiménez Millán7 de abril de 2011 a las 20:25

    The idea of this, apart maybe, from telling people how foolish they are, was according to some information in the internet: The novelty of Manzoni is in making connections to a reflection on the role of the artist in the self-referential of the work of art.
    By which I understand he was trying to make a connection from a human body and art. And his body became the magical body of the artist.
    Maybe he was trying to combine the nature of what we do by instinct and what we can create.
    The message is what matters, not literally the poop itself. So if I see this as a message for the community, either trying to show how can the body be connected to the art, or either trying too show the community how foolish they are, then it is a really great idea. I still would never buy it, I woudnt like to have a tin with poop inside it. I like the meaning it has, but not the content of the can..

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  52. @Alejandra Barrera i agree with you as well, and i think you are totally right that when it comes to an artist everything he makes, just because he made it, it is art, and it can be something so stupid like this kind of art, and it is worth billions of dollars. But who knows, maybe it IS art and i'm wrong....

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  53. @Luis Angel Reyes, I agree with you this is just to stupid, like seriously? we can really create some things so much better than this, something not nasty.... I was really disgusted by this!

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  54. Wll i think that some people just dont know what art is, just because someone famous like picasso made it it doesnt mean its art. i guess in our world today no one is a real artist.
    ANDRES CAMACHO

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  55. for me this is a very funny and a very inovating idea of art because he just need shit and he made art its really amazing how one person can get international fame with only put his shit in a can.
    I really enjoy when i saw this thingas that are very creative and diferent of all the traditional art concepts. Many people think that this is disgusting but in my personal point of view anything that come from a human body is disgusting anything,

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  56. Samuel Ramirez@luis angel7 de abril de 2011 a las 21:06

    Ithink that you luis angel have a very close and stupid mind because he made a piece of art that no one have the balls to do only for that reason for me is art

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  57. Samuel Ramirez@ Alwjandra Barrera7 de abril de 2011 a las 21:08

    im not agree with ale because they only see a piece of shit in can but they dont see the really meaning they havr a really close mind because in the actuality there few things that are very inovate like this

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  58. Norma Fernanda Coronado Romero7 de abril de 2011 a las 21:20

    If you see this with an open mind you definitely going to appreciate it and consider it as art. You have to see the idea that the artist wants to express and not only the object. For me the idea is art but the shit it's sonmething disgusting. I like the way he make like a joke of the art consummers because they buy everything even SHIT. Some people aren't going to consider this as art because I think they only see the object but you have to look beyond the bject, what the artist want to show you.

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  59. Norma Fernanda Coronado Romero7 de abril de 2011 a las 21:22

    @Beatriz Jimenez:
    I agree with you and I like the way you see what he did. I think that you have and open mind and are respecting what others do.

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  60. Norma Fernanda Coronado Romero7 de abril de 2011 a las 21:24

    @Claudia Medina:
    I agree with you when you said that have shit in you house is disgusting but I think that you also have to see what's the idea of the artist. Obviously I don't think that poop is art but the idea is really good.

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  61. Beatriz Rafaela Jiménez Millán7 de abril de 2011 a las 21:28

    @Claudia
    It is true this doesnt decorate, but with it you have in your hands a revolutionary idea which I believe it is special because of the message, but I believe it would be better left in a museum, because I personally wouldnt buy it too.

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  62. It's really amazing how something so insultive to the people that surrounds in that media could manage to become so valuable and managed to become this sort of legend.
    Like always, i don't like it very much, but i got to say it's one of the most original things you have posted in this blog and i shall look more into it.
    also i recommend you to look for something my father told me he saw in a festival in Morelia, it's a surrealist piece of art that the magic of it was that it was just a giant cube of hair, just hair wrapped around hair, he really made an effort in making his art (even though he won nothing).

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  63. @Norma Fernanda Coronado Romero

    I gotta say his argument is really good, making something for this rotting society, but what i thing everyone enjoys the most is saying the word "shit" on a school blog.

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  64. Beatriz Rafaela Jiménez Millán7 de abril de 2011 a las 21:32

    @Larch
    It really is funny to have such a message, and the fact that people still buy it, but I dont think it is that they only want shit, I believe some actually apreciate the human interaction with art the artist was trying to make.

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  65. @ ANDRES CAMACHO

    art is really vague and no one can judge art technically because there will always be someone that likes that kind of art.
    trying to understand the concept of art is like trying to understand how the women's logic works.

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  66. for many people, the art must ve perfect, and many people can´t recognice many artistic ideas that the artists have, for example this... for me it is just an old can, unfurtunately I am one of those who cant recognize this kind of art, mainly vecause i have veing educated that the art must ve veautiful perfect and difficult to do, this is a vad mentality it is sad to ont recognize this art vut it is ok cause the art appresiation it is not the same for all the people. any vodie can say that is the vest art aoresiator, cause it is imposivle to say if somethig is truly art, it depends i the covception of art of the person that is watching it

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  67. i agree with diego, cause to apresiate art is as dificult as the women they are full of misteries and there is always something pretty in all of them

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  68. i agree with sam cause even though i dont like this it is really inovating. the way of thinkig of all the artists. and it is really interesting

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  69. Well as you said...this is shit. But remember, for modern art, the visual stuff is not important, is the idea.
    You really criticize this piece of art...so you stablish it as art...even you din't want to

    les die a little in the next post.

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  70. I think that for someone it may be a piece of art, but for others juts disgusting but in my opinion I don't consider this as art it might be an idea who no one wanted to do but is fool who buys this, but that kind of persons don't deserve to be artists.

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  71. @profe jaime
    I agree with you prof we established it is art and criticize it, and the idea in part is original but the artist didn't have imagination to do something more artist.

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